Posts by Marvin Shilmer

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things you dont hear: Protest against Jehovah's Witnesses event in central Israel turns violent

by goingthruthemotions in

it funny how the cult will imbelish on somethings and others they just sweep under the rug and you never hear anything about it again.

i was just doing some searches on the internet and stumbled on this.

i had heard that the dub's were trying to get people to go to israel and then you never hear anything after that.

after 2 years, getting the courage to read COC. but is is still really relevant?

by nowwhat? in

if so why?

Because the Watchtower organization (JW dot whatever!) was and remains a top-down run organization with little if any transparency. COC provided a documented view into the culture that made the organization.

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You have a $100,000,000 budget to do a global campaign against the WTBS worldwide. How would you spend it?

by JWchange in

what if by inheritance, winning the lottery or any other way, you suddenly got your hands on $150m after tax.

you maybe would spend a third of this giving your extended family financial security for life.

you maybe would buy a boat and a few investment properties.

Marvin Shilmer

i am of the opinion most GB members would not accept the financial incentive.

If you're looking for the surest and fastest way to influence Watchtower's future by spending 100 milliions bucks my opinion is to buy yourself a couple of GB members, if not more. That would do it.

You have a different opinion. So what?

They would rather die, as did their followers in Nazi Germany, Malawi etc.

The then GB members were all doing things that JWs of the era were dying for. Watchtower's top leadership does not act like they ask their followers to act.

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You have a $100,000,000 budget to do a global campaign against the WTBS worldwide. How would you spend it?

by JWchange in

what if by inheritance, winning the lottery or any other way, you suddenly got your hands on $150m after tax.

you maybe would spend a third of this giving your extended family financial security for life.

you maybe would buy a boat and a few investment properties.

Marvin Shilmer

The answer is easy: Offer each current member of the GB the sum of $10,000,000 to step aside as a GB member and write a memoir on their years as a GB member and that must be accompanied by documentation.

Watchtower would be toast as we know it today. Over. Done with.

Multiple GB members would jump on this cash train.

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Great Evening....

by Lee Elder in

jw
friends

...with dick and helen kelly.

got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.

wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.

Marvin Shilmer

Hi Lee,

I've been keeping up with Barbara, Joe and Joy as they make their way to and fro across the country. So glad you got to enjoy their company! Aren't they great folks?

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Camping and Watchtower

by JWdaughter in

campings org releases their financials.

camping humbly apologized for making predictions and gave it up declaring that he was searching scriptures to be more faithful.. anyway, he had a lot in common with wt belief that all other churches are apostate.

i think the ministry is really struggling.

Marvin Shilmer

Oh bugger; I didn't know the WTS actually had the audacity to wag their finger at the poor guy...

Yes. They did.

Today that audacity inspired me to be a little creative.

These two special entities (Family Ministries, Inc. and Watchtower, Inc.) deserve a side by side comparison!

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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

by EndofMysteries in

what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

Marvin Shilmer

Bible prophecy did say Israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back. ...

When the yellow dwarf of our solar system becomes a red giant everything on planet earth will be toast.

So do we really want to speculate about meaning attributed to a best seller?

That path ends up looking THIS RIDICULOUS...

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Camping and Watchtower

by JWdaughter in

campings org releases their financials.

camping humbly apologized for making predictions and gave it up declaring that he was searching scriptures to be more faithful.. anyway, he had a lot in common with wt belief that all other churches are apostate.

i think the ministry is really struggling.

Marvin Shilmer

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Watchtower on Harold Camping

Mr. Pot meets Mr. Kettle.

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OF DOGS AND BITES AND BIKES AND THINGS

by Terry in

the thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".

there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.

ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.

Marvin Shilmer

I must ride a bit faster then you, Terry. I had two come after me just today on a long ride. I sped up and kicked the shit out of the first one that got close enough for me to pile drive with my cleats. He left bloody and whining like a puppy.

Seriously though, I'm glad you're okay and glad that you reported the incident to authorities. Terry's life matters!

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Advance Directives and the JW Patient

by Lee Elder in

advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

Marvin Shilmer

Doctors are right to be concerned when an unconscious JW comes into the ER with a advance directive. Speaking with JW family members is seldom helpful.

Indeed!

In addition there is the problem of hopelessly incomplete Watchtower documents which do not address some rather important "fractions" that are accepted under its ridiculous blood taboo. One important component that JWs are free to accept is called cryo-poor plasma (also known as cryosupernatant). Nowhere does Watchtower speak to this blood product though it knows it has saved the life of many a JW.

For readers who want to know more about this subject see: Over 96% Accept 99%!

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